Samba4/DRS TODO List

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Pending Tasks

Database sanitising tool

When assisting production sites, it would help a lot to have a tool that creates a sanitised backup of the sam.ldb database, so testing can be done without revealing the users sensitive information (usernames, passwords etc). This could be done either via DRS replication or via direct ldb partition access.

'/' and maybe other chars are not allowed in sAMAccountName

W2K8R2 gives this: ERR: (Other) "LDAP error 80 LDAP_OTHER - <00000523: SysErr: DSID-031A1202, problem 22 (Invalid argument), data 0> <>"

Fix handling of non-linked DN attributes

We currently don't update non-linked DN attributes, when the target DN changes. We need to test how windows handles it. We may need to handle them like linked attributes and use an internal backlink attribute, for exampleDNAttribute it would be @BL-exampleDNAttribute.

Update to new doc release

We should look through the new WSPP docs release (from August 2009) and see what we haven't implemented yet, forming a more extensive todo list then this one. Now that we have basic replication working we can start to try to get all the corner cases right, and for that the docs (especially MS-DRSR and MS-ADTS) are a good source of information.

Why isn't repsTo written by Windows?

I have noticed that Windows is not sending us a DsUpdateRefs to update the repsTo when we join a Windows domain as a 2nd DC. This means if we followed the correct behaviour we would never send Windows a DsReplicaSync message, so we'd never tell windows to replication to us.

To work around this dreplsrv_notify_check() currently cheats by using repsFrom if repsTo is empty. We need to instead work out why Windows is not sending us DsUpdateRefs messages. Perhaps related to the lack of nTDSConnection objects?

Update: Discussions with the Microsoft AD team indicate that this is probably caused by delays in the Windows DC adding the Samba DC as a replication partner. The problem resolves itself after about 30 minutes or so. Sometimes running "repadmin /kcc" on the Windows DC helps.

repadmin.exe tool

The repadmin.exe tool on windows is a great way of seeing the status of replication. We would like to get all of the options of repadmin working when directed at a Samba4 DC.

Commands implemented so far:

  • bind - Display DC replication features
  • kcc - Forces the KCC to recalculate replication topology for a specified domain controller
  • replicate - Triggers replication event for the specified naming context between the source and destination domain controllers
  • showrepl - Displays the replication partners for each directory partition on the specified domain controller


  • Please add commands you feel we will need

Phantom objects

If DRS replication adds a link to a object that doesn't exist we are supposed to create a "phantom" object, which gets filled in later. We are working around that at the moment by delaying link creation until then end of the transaction for the replica cycle, but we should also support phantom objects.

Speed up replmd_ldb_message_element_attid_sort

The replmd_ldb_message_element_attid_sort function is pretty inefficient. We need to avoid the attribute lookups in the sort comparison function.

Don't allow replication of readonly attribs

We should not allow replication to overwrite readonly attributes. There are other attribute flags we aren't honouring as well. We should check the docs and add support for all the relevant attribute flags.

Support RODC

A RODC (read-only domain controller) is a potentially very useful use case for Samba4.

On Wed Oct 10 04:29:42 MDT 2012, abartlet said in samba 4 / replicate ldap:

Both server and client-side RODC support is implemented.  The only proviso is that we do not
correctly record the transfer of passwords to the RODC (AD records which
passwords were sent, for forensics later if an RODC was compromised).

The description below is not updated. --Monyo 11:03, 25 November 2012 (UTC)--

There is quite a lot of changes in replication and attribute filtering that should be done when we are a RODC.


  • Modify the libnet_become_dc code to do the RODC join - done.
  • Support for the RODC filtered attribute set
    • Create the RODC default filtered attribute set:
    • Implement marking an attribute as confidential.
    • If you try to add a system-critical attribute to the RODC filtered set while the schema master is running Windows Server 2008, the server returns an LDAP error "unwilling To Perform" (0x35). - done.
    • Mark as confidential any attributes that you configure as part of the RODC filtered attribute set - not necessary.
  • Support Administrator role separation - delegate the local administrator of an RODC to domain user or security group without granting that user or group any rights for the domain or other domain controllers - Supported through the MS UI.
  • Unidirectional replication - allow only inbound replication - done.
  • Read-only database - LDAP clients that want to perform a write operation are referred to a writable domain controller in the hub site. - done.
  • Credential caching - By default, an RODC does not store account credentials, except for its own computer account and a special krbtgt account for that RODC. You must explicitly allow any other credentials to be cached on that RODC, including the appropriate user, computer, and service accounts, to allow the RODC to satisfy authentication and service ticket requests locally. Howto:

Separate gc partition

Right now the gc partition is just an amalgamation of the normal base partitions, with no filtering (we just set the magic control to say that searches should cross partition boundaries).

We need to decide if we should make a separate ldb for the gc partition, and if so what method we will use to keep it in sync. If we don't create a separate partition then we should add the right filtering to gc searches.

Fix error mapping (no FOOBAR, and replmd_replicated_request_werror)

We have lots of code that returns WERR_FOOBAR or NT_STATUS_FOOBAR because we didn't know what error to return. We need to go through these and either work out the correct error code, or if that is hard then at least put a reasonable guess of the right error code along with a TODO comment to check it.

Honor attribute replication flag

There is a attribute flag for whether particular attributes should be replicated. We need to check that we get this right.

Update: We are now honoring the replication flags, although not the GC filtering flags or the RODC filtering flags

Max number of attributes on objects?

Metze noticed that the WSPP docs specify a maximum object size in AD of around 8k. This seems to translate into a maximum number of attributes that windows accepts. We may need to implement a similar limit to prevent problems with replication s4->windows.

Group policies

We are not currently obeying group policies, although we can serve them out to clients. We need to obey the ones that make sense for Samba. For this we need to provide a really easy API to allow any part of Samba to query a group policy, and to auto-update SAMDB with the needed changes.

Add support for ndr64 to wireshark

When watching w2k8-R2 <-> w2k8-R2 interactions, windows chooses NDR64 instead of NDR. We now support NDR64 in Samba, but wireshark doesn't understand it. To allow us to watch traffic between w2k8-R2 boxes we would like wireshark to understand NDR64.

Convert wireshark drsuapi to pidl

The DRSUAPI decoder in wireshark is quite poor. We should redo it using a pidl based parser.

An effort to do this has been published at:

Fix decryption of w2k8 by wireshark (krb5 patch)

When watching w2k8 <-> samba traffic in wireshark we often find that wireshark cannot decrypt some of the traffic. This is due to a bug/limitation in MIT kerberos. Metze has a hack based on LD_PRELOAD that works around this, but we should try to get this into the wireshark svn tree directly.

DsGetNCChanges:ANCESTORS flag

DRS_GET_ANC: Sort the result so that it includes updates to ancestor objects before updates to their descendants.

DsGetNCChanges:Replication rights check

MS-DRSR:5.94 IsGetNCChangesPermissionGranted

The IsGetNCChangesPermissionGranted procedure returns true if the source DC has permission to replicate objects and its attributes from the NC replica, as defined in msgIn.

DsGetNCChanges:Getting the changes based on the input UpToDateVector

We have input UDV with invocation_id, highest_usn for a neighbor. Return for each neighbor all changes above the specified USN.

Implement dirsync control for LDAP

Dirsync control is used in AD aggregation software like MIIS or IIFP, it used by the requester to ask for the list of changes since last interrogation for a given ID. This page present a little this control and it's use:

Fix dcdiag.exe errors

dcdiag reports quite a few errors against a Samba DC, including missing attributes, missing RPC calls and other failures.

You can see some sample output here:

Don't put NC attributes in RID Manager$

Our replication code treats replication of "RID Manager$" like all other NCs, which means it adds a replUpToDateVector and repsFrom attributes. These should only be put on real NCs, not the "RID Manager$" object.

Fix finddcs_send in libnet_lookup.c to use DNS

It uses NBT, then falls back to a bogus DNS lookup of the netbios domain name without the right suffix. It should start with DNS and only try NBT if that fails.

Fix DsRemoveDSServer

Removing a DC from the Domain Controllers container when using windows user/group admin tool against a s4 DC fails with "bad stub data". It generated a fault on the wire.

Test and fix "Group Policy Modelling"

We've had a report of the group policy modelling not working against Samba4 AD. The GPM tool allows you to test the behaviour of group policies for a chosen user or computer.

We need to test this, fix a bug if there is one, and add a section to the HOWTO on how to use GPM.

Add test suite for moving users between OUs

Moving users between OUs with DRS repl seems to be broken, needs fixing, and we need a testsuite

Add cifsfs+rsync interim script for group policy replication

We need to be able to replicate group policies between DCs. Ideally, we need this to work between Windows DC and Samba DCs. Until we have FRS, we need a simpler solution. Maybe cifsfs+rsync using an admin account in a script?

Schema modification over LDAP (mapiID)

Ensure that all the details of schema modification over LDAP work. For example, if your set the mapiID attribute to a partiular OID value, then a new value is selected automatically.

The task is to implement all the required things so that Samba4 behaviour matches the WSPP documentation in this area.

Check access rights for RODC control

The LDB_CONTROL_RODC_DCPROMO_OID should only be available if DS-Install-Replica control access right is available. See [MS-ADTS]

Completed Tasks

Handle conflicts in repl_meta_data

These need to be resolved via changetime and originating invocation ID, for both normal attributes and linked attributes

We need a testsuite for this, which should suspend replication, make conflicting changes, and then allow replication again.

Support SFU attributes and schema mods

We should support the SFU attributes for ID mapping, and enable provisioning with the SFU schema mods

Fix msDS-Key-Version-Number

Currently, the knvo is manually calculated. It should be based on replication metadata.

For performance, we should also find it in the replication metadata using a binary search.

Fix 'net vampire' and other python commands in 'net' to run in installed directory

The 'net vampire' command does not work from the installed directory.

Refuse schemaUpdateNow when a transaction is active

(handled by giving these parts of samba a talloc reference to the schema they use, and by enforcing a different event loop in transactions) Lots of Samba4 code assumes that pointers into the schema are constant for the life of a transaction. We need to enforce not having an open transaction when we do a schemaUpdateNow

Handle add where DN exists, but different GUID

We may need to handle the case where a DRS replication comes in for a DN that exists, but with a different GUID. We need to test with windows on how this is handled.

Add LDAP backend to BIND that uses AD's in-directory format

We need to serve DNS based on the data in Active Directory. There is an LDAP backend for BIND already, but there is no doubt a lot of work between that and using it against an AD-like database

Add nested transactions to ldb, using ldb_tdb

(We instead avoid doing anything that could cause that nesting, by creating a new event loop) TDB needs to be extended to have fully nested transactions, and ldb needs to be modified to pass transaction nesting down to the tdb layer (which now knows a little more about possible safe nested transactions)

Handle protected objects in delete

Find out what 'protected objects' are, and figure out how to implement them

Update (one way) forward links when renaming targets

In particular, updating well known GUIDs when renaming a well known objects

determine if we can rename an object that is pointed to by a well known object, if the well known GUID update is manual or automatic, and how to update them.

Implement upgrade from Samba3

Provision should have an option --upgrade-from=, taking a path to a Samba3 install, to do the upgrade into AD.

Much of the underlying code already exists, we need to hook it up.

  • Comment by Matthias: This is currently under development by Lukasz and Metze

Kerberos proxy for accts without secrets in RODC

When we are a RODC and we get a AS-REQ for an account where we don't have all the password information we need to forward the kerberos packet as-is to a real DC, and then proxy any reply packet back to the client.

The forwarded packet should go out with a ephemeral source port, and we then need a listener on that port for catching the reply from the DC.

Fix handling of secret attribute list

We switch on the secret attribute list too often, and this makes it riskier that we may get the list wrong in some location.

In particular, in the DRS server, we process the attributes for encryption and 'special secrets handling' in separate functions.

Join w2k8 to samba4 dc

We've been concentrating up to now on Samba4<->Samba4 replication, and Samba4<->Windows replication where the Samba4 server joins the Windows domain. A more difficult problem is making it work when you start with a Samba4 domain (from provision, or from vampiring a Windows domain) and then try to add another Windows DC by using dcpromo. This is currently failing with an obscure error at the end of the dcpromo process.

Update: We finally achieved this on 25th September. Currently the changes needed are in the plugfest branch (see;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/plugfest) but we expect to move them to master after we have cleaned up the binary DN handling.

Update2: This is now in master.

Create connection object (nTDSConnection)

Our KCC implementation (in source4/dsdb/kcc) is very simple at the moment. It should work by creating nTDSConnection objects under the nTDSDSA objects in the LDAP tree, then use those to create the repsFrom attributes, and possibly send DsUpdateRefs operations to the other DCs to setup a repsTo on each replication partner.

Right now we don't create nTDSConnection objects at all, which needs to be fixed.

Hook delete in repl_meta_data

Right now we just pass delete operations down through the repl_meta_data module to the ldb_tdb backend. That means that deletes are not replicated (as they don't change anything in ReplPropertyMetaData or in the uSNChanged attribute).

We should intercept delete operations and translate them into a combination of a rename to a objected in the "Deleted Objects" tree, along with a modify to add the isDeleted attribute. Then we need to setup the tombstone data in the object, and add a tombstone reaping task that would run once a day to really delete expired tombstone records.

Sort objects on disk

Some sysadmins might write scripts that rely on the return order of attributes within objects (eg. objectclass first). We sort objects on add in repl_meta_data.c to cope with this but we don't fix the sorting on modify. That should be fixed.

But note that despite the appearance that attributes are sorted by attributeID, generated attributes appear last, regardless.

Microsoft has told us that in their opinion we don't have to do this.

Check for parent exists in replication add and rename

During replication add and rename we need to check that the destination parent exists.

What triggers initial kcc run on windows after we join a w2k8 DC?

After we join a s4 DC to a windows domain, we've noticed that w2k8 needs to be prompted to run its KCC using "repadmin /kcc". We need to work out why this is needed so we can fix it.

Update: see the comments on repsTo update above

Linked attributes

We currently accept the w2k8 linked attributes in replication, but when other DCs replicate to us we serve up linked attributes as normal attributes (which is like a downlevel w2k3 does). We should store the full meta data associated with linked attributes in more fields in the extended DN and serve it up in getncchanges.

bitmap32 actually 3264 in samr QueryUserInfo level 16? (netmon bug too)

There seems to be a problem with the QueryUserInfo level 16 and NDR64. The Microsoft netmon 3.3 parser has the same problem as our ndrdump parser. We need to look into how this should be handled.

Update: this was fixed by the addition of NDR64 union alignment.

Implement RID Master and RID pools

We need to implement the RID master and allocate RIDs out from the RID pool

Single module stack

Samba4 is mostly run as a domain controller, but we have the option to run it standalone or as a member server. This codepath and module stack is largely untested.

The goal here is to run with the repl_meta_data module for all (non-LDAP) configurations.

Blockers: Need an invocationID for repl_meta_data to place into the replMetaData record. Currently we don't have one because we are not a DC, and don't have an CN=NTDS Settings record

Make linked_attributes aware of renames with new repl_meta_data

With the changes being made to repl_meta_data, we now store extra metadata in the extended DN. This information needs to be transferred between the old and new DN values in a source link, not discarded

Filter on Up-to-dateness vector

We should filter not only on the usnChanged, but also on the up to dateness vector supplied by the replication partner

Parentguid fix

We store parentGUID in the object on disk at the moment, whereas we should construct it at runtime when asked for. +

Double cn fix

When we do a s4<->s4 vampire we end up with the rDN attribute appearing twice on all objects in the new replica. We think this is because we should be filtering the rDN in the getncchanges code, but this needs checking.

Update: this should be fixed by the latest commits from the plugfest

Add interim DNS zone generator based on sam.ldb

We should have provision generate a zone file based on all the listed domain controllers in sam.ldb, not just a single DC. It could look up the other DCs with DNS to find their IP, and use the specified IP for the new server.

This will help us handle the DNS reproducibly while we wait for the above item.

Update: added as scripting/devel/

Script and tests for takeover of FSMO

We should have a script to (optionally forcibly) take over the FSMO roles of a domain

(currently this is done by a local modify to our LDB, but a script like the one to raise the functional level would be good) Done by the net fsmo command. We need to implement GetNCChanges extension in Samba 4 for this to work against it, for now tested against win 2008.

If modify sets attrib to same value then no replPropertyMetaData change

A modify via DRS replication that asks for an attribute to change to the same value it already has should be filtered out by repl_meta_data.c so that the replPropertyMetaData attribute is not updated.

Urgent replication

We need to add the urgent bit on replications that have changed critical objects (see the docs for a list). We will probably need to expand @REPLCHANGED to add a uSNUrgent attribute to support this.

Fix ldb_add objectclass sorting

In ldb_add we sort objectClass attributes in the objectclass module. The sort is currently horribly inefficient - it needs redoing using the sort indexes that Andrew and Nadia have recently added.

-s option to

The should be redone as a python wrapper so it obeys standard options like -s and can read smb.conf

* This script was obsoleted by doing the task properly in the Samba server and with dynamic update in BIND

Incorporate nssupdate-gss into the 'net vampire' command

We need to call nssupdate-gss from at the end of the 'net vampire' command, so that we don't need to manually run '' after a vampire

* This is being done as part of the main Samba process and a helper script.

Script to raise domain's functional level

We need a python script to increase the domain's functional level without needing to re-provision de domain.

* Such a script (called using "net domainlevel") was written by mdw and does exist in "master"

Reject Creating computers with wrong primaryGroupID

W2K8R2 returns UNWILLING_TO_PERFORM when you try to create a computer account with a given primaryGroupID (even if it's 515). We should match this behavior.

* Comment by Matthias: This doesn't work for all kind of user accounts (not only computers) and should now be fixed

Obey acls on objects

We need to obey the ntSecurityDescriptor on objects in our SAM. This is a large task! Nadya is working on it and hopefully will merge soon.

* Comment by Matthias: patches have been merged and it's still worked on

s4<->s4 in make test

We should add the s4<->s4 vampire and replication in make test

* Comment by Matthias: should have been done

How does another DC become the FSMO master and RID master?

We need to work out how a DC should become the FSMO master and RID master. We can do it now via ldbedit, but there should be a more automated method (perhaps the KCC should do this?)

Research at this point shows this is never done automatically. Rather this is done by user administration, using NTDSutil. (net fsmo command in Samba4) DCs exchange roles between them via GetNCChanges extensions - work in progress in;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/drs

Will start by adding a test to torture/drsuapi.c to investigate behaviour, sniff traffic, etc.

* Comment by Matthias: I think also this has been done

Refuse some privileged controls over ldap

Some of our ldb controls which are intended for internal use only need to be refused over ldap, or at least refused without admin privileges. We need to review the list of controls we handle, and probably have a list of ones that are allowed for non-admin users.

* Comment by Matthias: has been achieved by abartlet and tridge

Give 'no such object' error when using a deleted object as a base DN

Currently, we just filter deleted objects from the reply set (by adding to the search filter), but do not give the additional error code when a deleted object is used as a base DN

* Comment by Matthias: this was also fixed